[html4all] Forms Questionnaire: Answers, Objections, and Suggestions

Gregory J. Rosmaita oedipus at hicom.net
Thu Jul 10 20:01:04 PDT 2008


aloha!

for what it is worth, my response to the Forms Questionnaire is
logged at:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2008Jul/0021.html

and my comments document, referenced therein, lives at:

http://esw.w3.org/topic/GregoryRosmaita/FormsFeedback2008-07

personally, i object to the formal survey's assumption that WF2
will not only be the basis for next generation HTML forms, but 
that the assumption is that WF2 will be folded into HTML5, rather
than function as a forms module for HTML5 and its XML-serialization;
also, a deep dive into Forms WG work, emailing lists and drafts 
has convinced me that XForms 1.2 Transitional SHOULD AT LEAST be 
given a hearing, for i believe (as i wrote in the esw wiki page
cited above) that:

<q 
cite="http://esw.w3.org/topic/GregoryRosmaita/FormsFeedback2008-07">

The Forms WG's effort in drafting XForms 1.2, Transitional to explicitly 
accomodate syntactic expressions, and its extension of the XForms 
processing model, has lead to the adoption of as much of Web Forms 2 
as possible in order to: (a) provide streamlined form-construction for 
web authors and authoring tool developers; and (b) to provide an on-ramp 
for web authors who will need to scale up to XForms so that their 
frontplane integrates seamlessly with their backplane. What is needed, 
therefore, is for Web Forms 2 to be as flexible about syntax-level 
changes as the Forms WG has been in producing XForms 1.2 Transitional, 
so that a single solution renders XForms and WF2 "extensions" of each 
other. This will lay the foundation for a new single architectural 
construct from the point of view of web authors. "Architectural 
alignment" between XForms and Web Forms, must not be reduced simply to 
the ability to satisfy a mutual set of use cases. True "architectural 
alignment" is only possible if the Forms WG and the HTML WG can cooperate 
as two working groups producing a single construct: next-generation web 
forms which the community can readily adapt, use, and deploy, through a 
common client-side processing model. 

</q>

just my (ever devaluing) 2 cents (american),
gregory.
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